Re: Re: Re: Re: floor-time approach by greenspan

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Posted By A Son-Rise Message Board Participant on December 06, 1999 at 13:06:37:

In Reply to: Re: Re: Re: floor-time approach by greenspan posted byAutistic and proud on December 05, 1999 at 13:42:34:

: :well, it's alot better than any
: of the other stuff like TEACH,PECS,etc...

: What's wrong with TEACCH and PECS?

: I've just seen one eight-year-old who previously had no functional communication at all but who could use six pictures to ask for the things she wanted after her first six *hours* working with PECS. For the first time in her life, she can ask for what she wants and the things that meet her interests, and isn't dependent on other people trying to guess what she wants, and she's very happy about it. Her vocabulary is now up to 10 pictures, and it's expanding literally every day.

: Similarly, I've seen kids benefit hugely from having a visual schedule that explains what's happening next so that they can understand what's going on. What's wrong with that?

hello...there's nothing wrong with that...i personally had bad experiences at my daughter's previous school where they were following these methods, and i'm sure it had everything to do with the fact that they were not implementing them correctly. for example, they would show her a picture of a cookie, for example, at snack time and ask her to give it to them if she wanted a cookie. she would then actually approximate the word "cookie" and they still "made" her give them the card to get the cookie...thus leading to her frustration and probably the conclusion that words aren't good enough to get you what you want. the whole year she never really benefitted from the pictures but they kept pushing her to use them and not concentrating on language which she was starting to develop. that's my personal experience with that method, so i think it's totally wonderful for kids who do benefit from it :)

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Comments:: : :well, it's alot better than any : : of the other stuff like TEACH,PECS,etc... : : What's wrong with TEACCH and PECS? : : I've just seen one eight-year-old who previously had no functional communication at all but who could use six pictures to ask for the things she wanted after her first six *hours* working with PECS. For the first time in her life, she can ask for what she wants and the things that meet her interests, and isn't dependent on other people trying to guess what she wants, and she's very happy about it. Her vocabulary is now up to 10 pictures, and it's expanding literally every day. : : Similarly, I've seen kids benefit hugely from having a visual schedule that explains what's happening next so that they can understand what's going on. What's wrong with that? : : hello...there's nothing wrong with that...i personally had bad experiences at my daughter's previous school where they were following these methods, and i'm sure it had everything to do with the fact that they were not implementing them correctly. for example, they would show her a picture of a cookie, for example, at snack time and ask her to give it to them if she wanted a cookie. she would then actually approximate the word "cookie" and they still "made" her give them the card to get the cookie...thus leading to her frustration and probably the conclusion that words aren't good enough to get you what you want. the whole year she never really benefitted from the pictures but they kept pushing her to use them and not concentrating on language which she was starting to develop. that's my personal experience with that method, so i think it's totally wonderful for kids who do benefit from it :)